The factcheck.org analysis seems pretty thorough. However, the bulk of the turmoil their article exhibits is in regard to the absolute numbers representing the fair tax. In my estimation, it will be difficult to ascertain an exact set of numbers to plug in to make the plan tax neutral. Unfortunately, the principles behind the fair tax – tax consumption instead of production – has been ignored. Regardless of the numbers it takes to attain neutrality, the principle at work is what is important.

For anyone interested in reading a rebuttal of the factcheck article:

http://www.fairtax.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&id=8249

Below “Retail Sales Tax with No Cash Grant” <-= (meaning without prebate.) The Panel’s broad tax base <- (meaning their own invention.)

The Panel initially evaluated the federal retail sales tax using the broad tax base described by advocates of the “FairTax” retail sales tax proposal. That tax base (the “Extended Base”) would exempt only……… <-=== (means fair tax plan = extended base, not the tax reform panel’s broad base.)

Chart 9.4 is based on a tax plan other with a higher rate then the fairtax that is evident in the charts.

Try it out
→http://www.fairtax.org/site/PageServer?pagename=calculator <-
You can change many things single, married, joint or not, kids , mortgages, changes in interest rates, 401k and ira’s, to Assumptions on the reduction in presales tax cost.

Recluse,

The President’s Advisory Panel on Federal Tax Reform did ignore the payroll taxes! Please think about the difference in complexity between 66,000+ pages and 300 pages. Do you think Guitner would have made his errors using the FairTax as opposed to the broken IRC?

The only arguments against the FairTax are inaccurate. Just as waterboarding, gitmo, driling here, now, gun control. Those opposed are driven by obvious ideology that defies facts. CO2 control, based on manipulated and erroneous data…
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It’s amassing how many opposers use findings by the taxreformpanel.gov when the taxreformpanel.gov offered analysis’s for tax systems other then the fairtax.

Yes, I saw the actual text for the first time a couple of days ago, and it turns out to analyze the FairTax’s effect on the economy and citizens’ tax burdens, the Tax Reform Panel actually analyzed a full-replacement value-added tax and then applied their findings on that tax to the FairTax.

I’m not prepared to challenge FactCheck — but I can say from experience that the presidents tax reform panel was a huge load of soft soap [edited from a much stronger derogatory term].

Factcheck.org chose that name hoping to pass themselves off as a reliable website such as snopes, but really it’s just a front for a radical left wing agenda. Don’t get me wrong, the Fairtax is nonpartisan, as it should be, but the fact is liberals have always favored higher (and more complicated) taxes, right along with gov’t control (both of which are accomplished by our current tax system). So, when something like the Fairtax comes along and threatens to transfer more power back to the people, the liberals are going to do whatever they can to stop it.

This is normal for those opposed to the Fairtax without first actually going to the site. How many opposing views would be here, if there weren’t something else afoot? I don’t believe for a moment the intellectual honesty of anyone opposed to completely un-taxing those in poverty.
The very same socialists that champion our current 64,000 to 67,000 page tax-code (depending on who’s counting) are the ones that scream their support of the poor and the working man.
No lads and lasses, tis more afoot than mere opposing. I invite you all to look at the FairTax site, get it straight from the horses mouth, Then visit the opposers and look at their arguments. What are their claims but continued class warfare? Look at this a different way, and leave your own bigotry at the door. This is vital to the survival of individual liberty.
It is time to realize, whatever a socialist’s intent, no matter how much the compassion they claim, why depend on government? Please ask youself, would you rather determine your own fate by choosing between New Retail and Used.
If you are an evironmentalist, should we not place downward pressure on New Retail Goods purchases by placing a low tax on those that spend more than poverty level on New Retail Goods?
Why not reward re-cycling by un-taxing used goods, including homes and cars?
What possible reason for any American to be against this?
Freedom is scary. We all want “momma to make it go away”? But at what price when we place our government in such power as to take from you the fruits of your labor, even with the use of deadly force? How can anyone be against releasing everyone from that?
Can anyone explain that and still hold respect for those that oppose this?

The last thing every country has done before it is destroyed is tolorate that which destroys it. Good people doing nothing. I encourage all here to email your groups again and again.. quote the massive response this one priority has generated. The liberals that raised this site, now has a bull by the horns and they’ve used devices based on response count, not quality, to raise false opposition positions.
This is the “game” we play. But what is good is that 4,000 have come out in favor of freedom with only about 140 against their own freedom. Ahh, tis a good day lads and lasses..

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www.fatheromalley.com “common sense”..

Ditto fatheromalley Ditto!