President Obama, please:

Old Coot posted a bulletin Sat Mar 28 17:07:14 -0700 2009 2 comments
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Old Coot Sat Mar 28 17:07:14 -0700 2009

Why?
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Hawkeye (endorses) Mon Mar 30 08:38:29 -0700 2009

n the House debate, Representative David Wu of Oregon offered this scenario:
Let us say that my wife, who is here in the gallery with us tonight, a sixth generation Oregonian, is walking by the friendly, local military base and is picked up as an unlawful enemy combatant. What is her recourse? She says, “I am a U.S. citizen”. That is a jurisdictional fact under this statute, and she will not have recourse to the courts? She can take it to Donald Rumsfeld, but she cannot take it across the street to an article 3 court.22
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Hawkeye spent 1pc on an ad for this priority Wed Mar 11 23:15:05 -0700 2009 1 comment
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Hawkeye (endorses) Wed Mar 11 23:15:06 -0700 2009

This issue has unintended consequence on us all
bandito posted a bulletin Sun Mar 01 20:35:35 -0800 2009 22 comments
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bandito (endorses) Sun Mar 01 20:35:35 -0800 2009

The fact that 120 are opposed to this is frightening. Habeas Corpus has been a right established in most countries for 700+ years, arguably since the Magna Carta. A country without this right is totalitarian, uncivil, and an enemy of liberty and the Constitution.
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Recluse Wed Mar 18 09:58:30 -0700 2009

Right you are bandito. So if we never declared war on a country, how can you be declared an enemy combatant?
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Hawkeye (endorses) Thu Mar 19 02:34:15 -0700 2009

Here is the gut issue of MCA 2006. It provides the means to CTA for torture tactics already committed. in addition to actually Planning ahead for the eventual civil unrest they feared would threaten the gated community class from the superfluous rabble, they believed, would be spurred into action by the imminent economy collapse.
In the House debate, Representative David Wu of Oregon offered this scenario:
Let us say that my wife, who is here in the gallery with us tonight, a sixth generation Oregonian, is walking by the friendly, local military base and is picked up as an unlawful enemy combatant. What is her recourse? She says, “I am a U.S. citizen”. That is a jurisdictional fact under this statute, and she will not have recourse to the courts? She can take it to Donald Rumsfeld, but she cannot take it across the street to an article 3 court.22
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_Commissions_Act_of_2006#Claims_the_MCA_is_an_unconstitutional_ex_post_facto_law
Cahoyle3 posted a bulletin Thu Jan 22 13:04:20 -0800 2009 2 comments
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Cahoyle3 Thu Jan 22 13:04:20 -0800 2009

I agree with cmpastore: I condone torture of any means against anyone who targets my country. They are not citizens of this country and OUR rights are for only citizens of our country.

We have to protect our Sovereignty at ALL COST.
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mrg Fri May 01 16:17:25 -0700 2009

You would certainly have a point if we were still living in a nationally segmented world. However, since we are living in a global world where pursuing security mono-nationally is just as silly as pursuing a mono-nationalistic economy, I would suggest that our own rights and quality of life are wrapped-up in the rights and lives of others. Our rights are inextricably connected to the rights of others. If, in attempting to secure our country, we walk all over another’s rights and the dignity of their humanity as if it were less than ours or worthless, we invite them to do the same to our rights, our lives and the lives of our neighbors, friends and family. For this reason, unswerving attempts to secure our own protection without consideration for the protection of the rights of others will not find us more security, but more fear.
cmpastore posted a bulletin Thu Jan 22 10:05:49 -0800 2009 2 comments
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cmpastore Thu Jan 22 10:05:49 -0800 2009

I condone torture of any means against anyone who targets my country. They are not citizens of this country and OUR rights are for only citizens of our country.
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Cahoyle3 Thu Jan 22 13:04:51 -0800 2009

Agreed!
Hawkeye revised All must have the right of habeas corpus. Thu Nov 27 08:42:10 -0800 2008 18 comments
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Hawkeye (endorses) Thu Nov 27 08:42:10 -0800 2008

torture is unconstitutional
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nordwind (endorses) Fri Mar 13 23:41:17 -0700 2009

You just went by this like nothing serious had been perpetrated by the highest executive.
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nordwind (endorses) Sat Mar 14 00:35:09 -0700 2009

Note: I will not continue with this 1-2 days from now. If you want to discuss it then discuss it. I will not continue with this another time.

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