“PRINCETON, NJ — More Americans now say it is not the federal government’s responsibility to make sure all Americans have healthcare coverage (50%) than say it is (47%). This is a first since Gallup began tracking this question, and a significant shift from as recently as three years ago, when two-thirds said ensuring healthcare coverage was the government’s responsibility. Gallup has asked this question each November since 2001 as part of the Gallup Poll Social Series, and most recently in its Nov. 5-8 Health and Healthcare survey. There have been some fluctuations from year to year, but this year marks the first time in the history of this trend that less than half of Americans say ensuring healthcare coverage for all is the federal government’s responsibility.”

Wow. What took ’em so long to figure this out? Maybe they started noticing reports like this …. According to the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, the House healthcare bill would RAISE healthcare costs across the board by a minimum of $289 billion over the next 10 years. The report says, “With the exception of the proposed reduction in Medicare… the provisions of H.R. 3962 would not impact on future healthcare cost growth rates.” http://thehill.com/homenews/house/67791-cms-house-health-bill-will-hike-costs-289b

And what about that Medicare reduction … “the CBO noted that Medicare spending per beneficiary would have to grow at roughly half the rate it has over the past two decades to meet the measure’s savings targets, a dramatic reduction that many budget and health policy experts consider unrealistic.” http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/11/14/AR2009111402597.html?hpid=topnews

So what will happen? Rationing kiddies! The House Democrat plan would end up sharply reducing benefits and access to care for millions senior citizens. Why? BECAUSE the Medicare cuts contained in the House healthcare bill will be so costly that hospitals and nursing homes will actually go out of business if they try to operate under the new scale. So instead they will just stop taking Medicare altogether. Good luck trying to find a Doctor or Hospital then.

You asked for it enjoy

Cheers!

H. Evers

Yeah those socialist systems wor so much better but remember you don’t want to retire to England their socialized medicine and rations care by denying it to the elderly. Kind of like the cuts to Medicare Hmmm? Not over 70 are you jim?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1224776/Over-65-Why-doctors-think-giving-latest-cancer-drugs-just-waste.html

Also you do not want to become ill there either since with socialized medicine you don’t do much research (doesn’t pay) so you fall behind on all the latest treatments. Good thing the USA is there (at least for now) so these poor people have a place to go. Wonder why they did not go to France, Germany, Candida or Cuba? That’s because those countries have socialized medicine also and have fallen far behind on the most effective treatments.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1224771/Generous-Simon-Cowell-X-Factor-judge-donates-100-000-cancer-stricken-youngster.html

Never fear however when the “progressive democrats” pass Obama care we will become just like England or France or Germany or Candida or even Cuba. Wont that be wonderful?

Cheers

H. Evers

Don’t retire in England they have socialized medicine and therefore ration care by denying it to the elderly. Kind of like the cuts to Medicare Hmmm?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1224776/Over-65-Why-doctors-think-giving-latest-cancer-drugs-just-waste.html

Also you do not want to become ill there either since with socialized medicine you don’t do much research (doesn’t pay) so you fall behind on all the latest treatments. Good thing the USA is there (at least for now) so these poor people have a place to go. Wonder why they did not go to France, Germany, Candida or Cuba? That’s because those countries have socialized medicine also and have fallen far behind on the most effective treatments.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1224771/Generous-Simon-Cowell-X-Factor-judge-donates-100-000-cancer-stricken-youngster.html

Never fear however when the “progressive democrats” pass Obama care we will become just like England or France or Germany or Candida or even Cuba. Wont that be wonderful?

Cheers

H. Evers

You voted for change…………………..
“We’re going to have to, if you’re very old, we’re not going to give you all that technology and all those drugs for the last couple of years of your life to keep you maybe going for another couple of months. It’s too expensive…so we’re going to let you die.”

“Also I’m going to use the bargaining leverage of the federal government in terms of Medicare, Medicaid—-we already have a lot of bargaining leverage—-to force drug companies and insurance companies and medical suppliers to reduce their costs. What that means, less innovation and that means less new products and less new drugs on the market which means you are probably not going to live much longer than your parents.”
For a speech by former Labor Secretary Robert Reich who is now an economics adviser for Barack Obama

…………Did you ever think it would include this?

There is an alternative to socialized medicine being forced on us by this administration. We are not in a crisis that requires we act today so why all the rush? Is it because the Administration does not want you to realize that the proposed plan will NOT improve medical care but rather just increase Government control?
Elections have consequences this one just may destroy everything you have and all that you children might have had.
Cheers!

H. Evers

Ok, let’s look at innovation from a historical perspective. If your view was correct we would still be paying $2000 bucks for commodore 64’s. Air Fares would be so expensive that only the rich could fly. In the winter you would have to do without fresh vegetables because only the rich could afford to transport them. Forget the telephone or electricity way to expensive except for the ultra rich.

Are you starting to get the picture? Treatments that were unavailable or so expensive that only the rich could afford them are now in common use at much lower prices. Capitalism, if allowed to operate, reduces the price of commodities and provides them to a wider customer base by its very nature.

Government run economies and health systems, by their very nature, cause a reduction in research, poor service, and eventually a complete failure in the system.

H. Evers

A few interesting items in the Socialized Medicine Bill (SMB) introduced by the democrat party yesterday.
Abortion: The language in the bill is exactly the same language that was narrowly approved in the House Energy & Commerce Committee, which over three dozen Democrats say is unacceptable. Democrats will say the language is clear but that hasn’t been enough for critics.
Illegal immigrants: Starting on page 228, there are a series of requirements for “Verification of Requirement of Citizenship or Lawful Presence in the United States.” Of course with this provision 10 to 15 Million of the supposedly uninsured will remain uninsured and a drain on the health care system. Ah well so much for reducing costs. And there is a cost and bureaucracy for all of these Social Security number checks and more, as the bill would spend $30 million to carry out these new verification requirements.
And of course the “end of life” counseling remains in the bill. That’s the “death panels” that raised hackles a few months back.

Cheers

H. Evers

One of the main arguments you see here is that insurance companies are making obscene profits and allowing people to die. While president Obama’s “allowed them to die” argument has been debunked I am still seeing the canard about the Obscene Profits insurance companies make. But according to a report by the AP insurance companies aren’t making all that much of a profit, let alone obscene profits. http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iorq8FSpX_4LX_UG_xHQIjJY3SvgD9BIQPN01 “Health insurers posted a 2.2 percent profit margin last year, placing them 35th of 53 industries on the Fortune 500 list. As is typical, other health sectors did much better — drugs and medical products and services were both in the top 10.
The railroads brought in a 12.6 percent profit margin. Leading the list: network and other communications equipment, at 20.4 percent.”

So let’s see Insurance do not kill people, or do not make obscene profits. Single payer will cost more not less than the current system unless services are drastically rationed. If the current Senate proposal is adopted the 5% to 8% actually without health Insurance will STILL be without Health Insurance.
So tell me again why you want this? Oh yeah, it’s fair we all suffer equally, right?

Cheers!

H. Evers

There is nothing wrong with Co-Ops as long as the Government keeps its thumb off the scale. But with this Administration and it hatred of profit, and capitalism; its need create a false picture of fairness by crippling the producers; its desire to leave no crisis unused by government to grow government for the benefit of government, I doubt that they will be able to resist the desire to “punish” insurance companies for their evil ways. And help us regardless of if we need it or not. “We are from the government and we are here to help”. Yep, that will work don’t you know.

Cheers!

H. Evers

How does he do it, how does he keep a straight face and tell us that he can insure millions more people without adding to the already skyrocketing deficit and to do so after the Congressional Budget Office showed this to be impossible demonstrates the contempt this administration holds the American people in. Are we really such fools? Well to read some of the comments here it would seem so.

Even you who think that President Obama will discover the money needed by eliminating “waste, fraud and abuse” should ask themselves why not fix what is broke, since he says he knows what it is, rather than disrupting the entire medical system. Save the money then spend it, isn’t that what we are supposed to do? Maybe the administration should try demonstrating their ability to make something better before we agree to dissemble the best healthcare system in the world, hmmm? And by the way where do you think he will find the additional physicians and nurses and hospitals, at reduced costs of course, necessary to make this all work. With cut rates and profit an evil word it may just be a little hard to get people to attract people or capitol to the health care field.

President Obama also wants to impose all kinds of additional expense on the evil insurance companies that will drive up their costs but he will not interfere with your choice of where to get your insurance. Nope, “no interference”, that’s his motto. This is one President that believes in the American system of free enterprise, at least that is what he says.
Of course he also said he wants a single (government) payer system for insurance. He also says that unemployment would go down only “if” we passed the “stimulus package”, yeah that really worked. His idea of free enterprise includes the government owning some companies and directing the operation (pay and benefits) of others.

Yep, you voted for change and brother, are you getting it.

Just wait till you hear the real deal about “cap and trade” where we will handicap our American companies, cause unemployment and significantly raise the cost of utilities for you and me all in the name of an “emergency” that does not exist, Global Warming. Check it out, CO2 emissions are up over the last 10 years and global temperatures have been falling since 1998. But as with the “Medical Emergency”, the truth of a proposition does not stop these lads.

BOHICA!
H. Evers