Lets pray the states take a stand and refuse to participate in this HOSTILE TAKEOVER by the federal govt.

i.e. force the healthy and wealthy to pay for the sick and poor. That’s what you mean. If you lament high prices and denials of coverage, then you expect someone else to pick up the slack that prevented said person from receiving treatment. Under a one-payer system, everyone’s cost is tied to everyone else. Therefore, what happens (and I promise you I will engage in) is that neighbors get pit against neighbors, each other decrying the personal choices of the other. “How can you smoke? You’re making my healthcare more expensive.” “No, it’s you and your damn SUV! When you flip over and require $200k in reconstructive surgery all because you won’t drive a normal fucking car, you’re going to make my health care more expensive.” “Give me that GD cigarette. You can’t smoke it, because it makes ME pay more.” “Get that cheeseburger out of your mouth. You’re making my bills more expensive.”

Get the picture.

“The problem with socialism is eventually you run out of other peoples money.” – Margaret Thatcher

Healthcare costs should take a very small percentage of our GDP. It is the politicians who create the crises in the first place via limiting private sector competition, mandating coverages and entitlement programs. This healthcare bill is a farce; a wolf sold as a sheep.

Here are the numbers on Obamacare
•0 – the number of provisions prohibiting the rationing of health care.
•0 – the number of government-run entitlement programs that are financially sound over the long-term.
•10.2 percent – our national unemployment rate, the highest in 26 years.
•70 – total number of government programs authorized by the bill.
•1,697 – times the Secretary of Health and Human Services is given authority to determine or define provisions in this bill.
•2,074 – total pages in this bill.
•2010 – the year Americans start paying higher taxes to pay for this bill
•2014 – the year when this bill actually starts most of the major provisions of this bill
•$6.8 million – cost to taxpayers per word
•$8 billion – the total amount of new taxes on Americans who do not buy Washington-defined health care.
•$465 billion – Cuts in Medicare at a time when it faces a $38 trillion unfunded liability to finance more government spending.
•$494 billion – total amount of new taxes in this bill
•$2.5 trillion – the real cost of the bill
•$12 trillion – our total national debt
•5% 0f the population: The percent of the population that actually is without health insurance today
•5% of the population: The percent of the population that will be without health insurance under Obamacare

Can you spell sucker! Cheers

H. Evers

I can spell sucker, it’s G-O-V-E-R-N-M-E-N-T-T-A-K-E-O-V-E-R-B-Y-T-R-U-M-P-E-D-U-P-C-R-I-S-I-S-S-U-P-P-O-R-T-E-R, right?

I guess you could just say that there is one born every minuet. Just wait till they get the bill from this party!

H. Evers

They’ll just blame it on Bush.

As Toots Shor used to say “Hello Suckers!” All you Obamaites have been pretty quiet recently. I wonder where all of you advocates of CHANGE have gone to on this site. Here you have a bill that is proven to literally steal money, freedom of choice, and quality of care from all Americans while still not covering the people that are not covered now and what do you do? Crawl under a rock too embarrassed to even defend your opinions. It is just incredible; You rile against big business, big insurance, big medicine over the cost of health care and then blithely accept the fact the this more (much more) than $2 trillion dollar program will actually increase your costs for health care more than if we did nothing (See Congressional Budget Office report).

Come on people at least try an defend this travesty and while you are at it explain away the global warming fraud, the waste of TARP funds, The “Stimulus Money” expended in non-existent congressional districts, the phony job numbers and the dithering about Afghanistan. Come on all you supporters of change tell me how does it feel to be betrayed? And still you vote for this garbage. Unbelievable, can you even add? How do you think your children will pay for all this?

Cheers and remember TNSTAAFL

H. Evers

As currently structures Health care reform will fail to achieve its promise of affordable access to medical because the nation’s physician workforce is unable to meet the demand that newly insured patients will place on an already over-burdened system.

There will be longer wait times for appointments, less face time with a physician and, in all likelihood, delayed diagnoses leading to more expensive treatment and increased risk of complications. One need only look at the experience of Massachusetts, where universal health coverage is failing to either reduce cost or improve care and has created an intense physician shortage.

Why is this happening? Because under “Obama care” there is no longer an economic reason to either spend the 10 years necessary to become a Doctor nor is there any reason for current Doctors to continue to practice. Why work longer and longer hours for less money?

Those of you who are so happy that the Democrats giving you health reform that will relegate medical care back to third world levels of care ought to consider what these very near term effects will be. Fewer larger hospitals (farther to travel for care), fewer Doctors so more care provided by less trained providers like nurses and Physicians Assistants, denial of “expensive treatment” like MRIs, reduction in preventative care like mammograms and colonoscopy, and yes like all the government controlled health care systems in the world a reduction of care to those deemed “unworthy”.

You wanted change unfortunately you did not consider that change would be for the worse.

Cheers

H. Evers

Yo, Mary the proposal is to: “Enact quality, affordable health care for all”

Since all of the proposals to date will Reduce the quality of health care, Increase rather than reduce the cost of healthcare and still not cover the 5% of the population that has real problems with health insurance coverage now, just what are you really for anyway?

And consider, the government has done such a good job managing Medicare, and the VA health system, not to mention Freddy and Fanny. We should all be so happy that now it will manage our health care system. Right Mary?

Cheers

H. Evers

“PRINCETON, NJ — More Americans now say it is not the federal government’s responsibility to make sure all Americans have healthcare coverage (50%) than say it is (47%). This is a first since Gallup began tracking this question, and a significant shift from as recently as three years ago, when two-thirds said ensuring healthcare coverage was the government’s responsibility. Gallup has asked this question each November since 2001 as part of the Gallup Poll Social Series, and most recently in its Nov. 5-8 Health and Healthcare survey. There have been some fluctuations from year to year, but this year marks the first time in the history of this trend that less than half of Americans say ensuring healthcare coverage for all is the federal government’s responsibility.”

Wow. What took ’em so long to figure this out? Maybe they started noticing reports like this …. According to the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, the House healthcare bill would RAISE healthcare costs across the board by a minimum of $289 billion over the next 10 years. The report says, “With the exception of the proposed reduction in Medicare… the provisions of H.R. 3962 would not impact on future healthcare cost growth rates.” http://thehill.com/homenews/house/67791-cms-house-health-bill-will-hike-costs-289b

And what about that Medicare reduction … “the CBO noted that Medicare spending per beneficiary would have to grow at roughly half the rate it has over the past two decades to meet the measure’s savings targets, a dramatic reduction that many budget and health policy experts consider unrealistic.” http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/11/14/AR2009111402597.html?hpid=topnews

So what will happen? Rationing kiddies! The House Democrat plan would end up sharply reducing benefits and access to care for millions senior citizens. Why? BECAUSE the Medicare cuts contained in the House healthcare bill will be so costly that hospitals and nursing homes will actually go out of business if they try to operate under the new scale. So instead they will just stop taking Medicare altogether. Good luck trying to find a Doctor or Hospital then.

You asked for it enjoy

Cheers!

H. Evers